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Podcast Review: Kevin Kietzman Has Issues

Kevin Kietzman dives into the latest developments with the Trump legal team as they continue to fight the results of the 2020 presidential election.



President Trump is facing several uphill challenges to contest the results of the 2020 presidential election. Late last week, Columbus-based Porter Wright Morris & Arthur advised a federal judge in Pennsylvania that it was pulling out of a case it was handling that dealt with alleged election fraud. This development as well as others in this prolonged saga, are covered by Kevin Kietzman on his podcast, Kevin Kietzman Has Issues.

“When I initially read this, I thought that this is not good,” said Kietzman. “They must think there is no chance, but that’s not it at all. There’s internal strife inside their company, a couple of lawyers quit that are big-time Democrats.”

A motion filed by an attorney with the firm that works out of the Pittsburgh office said the campaign was “in the process of retaining and causing other counsel to take over the case.” Some of Trump’s critics, including people affiliated with the Lincoln Project – an American political action committee formed in late 2019 by several Republicans and former Republicans – have pledged to pressure the commercial clients of law firms representing the Trump campaign to drop the firms if they continued with the court fight on behalf of the president.

Kietzman said attorneys for Porter Wright Morris & Arthur strong-armed the firm telling them that they did not want to work for a firm who represented Trump. “Porter Wright has been involved in election law for a long time. Republicans and Democrats, they are kind of the standard-bearer.”

The law firm’s departure comes as filing deadlines loom and as an important argument session in the case was scheduled for Tuesday and an evidentiary hearing was set for Thursday. The campaign is claiming that there were irregularities in the election process that prevented Democratic-leaning counties from certifying their vote totals.  

“This is the kind of stuff that we are doing in this country that is turning everything over to the liberals,” Kietzman said. “This is exactly what the liberals want. They want public pressure against you for supporting something conservative or taking on business that’s conservative.”

Trump’s campaign reacted with anger at the firm for backing out. “Cancel Culture has finally reached the courtroom,” said campaign communications director, Tim Murtaugh. “Leftist mobs descended upon some of the lawyers representing the President’s campaign and they buckled.”

“You take sides because of who hired you,” said Kietzman. “Whether it’s Republican or Democrat, you work on behalf of your client.” Philadelphia-based attorney Linda Kerns continues to represent Trump in the case.

Kietzman pointed out that what Trump is going through is not good for him but what Porter Wright Morris & Arthur did to their client, quitting in the middle of a big case, “is even worse for the legal system.”

A firm representing Trump in Arizona quit last week. Snell & Wilmer withdrew from an election-related lawsuit over results there. A judge granted the firm’s request last week.“It’s embarrassing and I don’t know how we fix it or change it,” Kietzman said.

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Podcast Review: Too Many Lawyers Oakes v. Oakes

The podcast opens with the pair discussing President Trump’s unwillingness to concede the election to Joe Biden. “Even the president is acknowledging it (election results),” said Royal. “The five stages of grief, the denial and so on, are sinking in.” Connor responded by reminding his father that Trump continues to tweet that he will not concede.



There are several reasons why this year’s presidential election was close and despite post-election controversies centering on voter fraud and a president who refuses to concede, 2024 will undoubtedly encompass many different types of personalities and political ideologies vying for the White House.

The strength of populism and the role it will play in the 2024 presidential election, are just some of the issues covered in an informative and fast-paced new podcast called Too Many Lawyers which is hosted by Royal Oaks and his son Connor. Both men are attorneys based in Los Angeles, California. Royal is a self-described libertarian, Connor a progressive millennial.

The podcast opens with the pair discussing President Trump’s unwillingness to concede the election to Joe Biden. “Even the president is acknowledging it (election results),” said Royal. “The five stages of grief, the denial and so on, are sinking in.” Connor responded by reminding his father that Trump continues to tweet that he will not concede.

“This is all part of the narrative that Trump is setting up,” Connor surmised. “He is saying I am going to hold out until the December 13 electors vote in the Electoral College and at that point, I will say that the election was stolen from me.”

Royal suggested that it does not matter if Trump concedes to Biden. “He’s never going to concede in a traditional way. It is in Trump’s personality to his dying day he is always going to say that the election was stolen from him.”

Meanwhile, there is trouble with Trump’s legal team. The president’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani released a statement with another Trump attorney, Jenna Ellis, saying that Sidney Powell is not a member of the Trump legal team. The statement comes after Powel made incorrect statements and vowed to “blow up” Georgia with a “biblical” lawsuit.

The conversation turned to the future of the Democrat and Republican parties. The spotlight was cast on Joe Biden who flipped the traditionally red states of Arizona and Georgia to blue. “That was in our current era what many people think is a massive upset,” Connor said. “When it comes to flipping states, the Democrats have to walk a fine line between setting realistic expectations and getting their party excited.”

“When you talk about the historic flips, going into the election when the polls had Biden up by 10 points, whatever the cause was, the expectation was that this could be a really historic election for the Democrats,” Royal said. “When you look at how uniquely unpopular and distasteful Donald Trump was from a personality standpoint and when you look at the huge wave of support for progressivism, Trump still got more votes than any other person in a presidential election.”

Connor blamed the over-polling of Democrats and the over-polling of Trump disapproval rating and enough polling on whether people were likely to vote for Trump as another reason why the election was disappointing from the Democrat’s standpoint.

Another tactic that seemed to work for Republicans was the micro-targeting of population in larger cities. For instance, Miami-Dade County, Florida, where 58 percent of the electorate is Hispanic. Hundreds of thousands more people voted for Trump this year as opposed to 2016. He improved his performance in Miami by 22 points which helped him win Florida easily. “This is a symptom of how the electoral system works. You just have to carve away a tiny bit of someone’s base and boom you have the entire state,” Connor said.

This year’s election also featured Blacks and Hispanics voting for Republicans at a much higher clip than they have in the past. In the future Republicans are likely to ride the populist wave that Trump started in 2016.

“Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, and maybe even Mitt Romney are all eyeing 2024,” said Connor. “And they are all trying to decide what the best angle is, and they all know they have to capture most of the Trumpers.”

Too Many Lawyers is a weekly news, current events and information podcast, presented in an entertaining and thoughtful question and answer format. Too Many Lawyers is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Podcast Review: This Was A Pretty Good Map For Biden

In the most recent episode of FiveThirtyEight Politics podcast, Galen Druke leads a discussion immediately after news that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are announced to become the next president and vice president of the United States.



President-elect Joe Biden’s win over the weekend will not be considered a landslide victory but it is a win that if you told any Democrat a year ago and showed them the map of states that Biden won they would’ve been ecstatic about the outcome.

In the most recent episode of FiveThirtyEight Politics podcast, Galen Druke leads a discussion immediately after news that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are announced to become the next president and vice president of the United States.

“It’s not easy to get an incumbent president out of office,” said Nate Silver, founder and editor in chief of FiveThirtyEight. “Joe Biden and Kamala Harris got some things done that Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine were not able to get done.”

Biden went to work right away on Sunday naming former surgeon general, Dr. Vivek Murthy, and former Food and Drug Administration commissioner, David Kessler, co-chairs of a coronavirus working group. The Biden administration is also working on a transition team to review budgetary and staffing decisions.

A review of the states that Biden won shows seven states out west including California, Arizona, and Nevada. Of course, Pennsylvania put him over the total number of Electoral College votes needed to become the 46th President of the United States.

“Pennsylvania was as close as we expected,” said Perry Bacon Jr., senior writer for FiveThirtyEight. “The victory in Wisconsin was a little smaller than I expected but Michigan was sort of in the range we expected.”

As of Sunday, Georgia, which has long been a Republican stronghold, has become a battleground state due to its growing Black electorate. Two years ago, Republican governor Brian Kemp defeated his Democratic challenger Stacey Abrams by less than two percentage points. “Georgia was interesting,” Bacon said.

“In terms of the other races it looks like the House was what surprised me the most,” Bacon said. “I would have guessed that the Democrats were going to gain seats but instead they lost seats. The Senate is a little more complicated because we don’t know what is going to happen in Georgia.”

Bacon pointed out that the Democrats did not do well at the state legislative level which has ramifications when it comes to redistricting, a process of drawing electoral boundaries. It looks like the Republicans will control many more state governments than Democrats which will allow them to redraw political maps once the census comes out next year.

Of the many things we still do not know about this election is if Joe Biden closed the gap among non-college educated white voters. In 2016, Trump did very well with this group. According to a Pew research poll conducted after the 2016 election, among the much larger group of white voters who had not completed college (44% of all voters), Trump beat Hillary Clinton by more than two-to-one (64% to 28%).

“Early data showed Biden making progress with this group, but the data doesn’t seem born out just yet,” said Sarah Frostenson, editor at FiveThirtyEight. “I would caution people that votes are still being counted and final certified votes, we are still months away from that. So that trend will become clearer in the coming weeks.”

As far as the transition of power, President Trump can’t sue his way to a second term. The Trump campaign is contesting the vote count in multiple states. Cases in Georgia and Michigan were tossed out by judges last week. There’s still active litigation in Pennsylvania and Nevada.

President-elect Biden and his transition team have been in touch with Republican lawmakers. Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, opened a Cabinet meeting on Sunday by congratulating Biden. “I have a long and warm personal connection with Joe Biden,” he said. “I know him as a great friend of the state of Israel. I am certain that we will continue to work with both in order to further strengthen the special alliance between Israel and the U.S.”

“One term presidents are losers and they are remembered as losers by American history,” concluded Nate Silver. 

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Podcast Review: The Sara Carter Show



Momentum in the critical swing state of Pennsylvania has shifted in President Trump’s direction according to one of his senior advisors. Mercedes Schlapp appeared on the Sara Carter Show following several weekend rallies by the president days before Election Day 2020.

“We just saw one poll where we were up two-percent, so I think we are definitely seeing the momentum swing to our side,” said Schlapp.” Also, Michigan and Wisconsin are tightening up, I really think that we are making tremendous inroads. When you go to these rallies you find that half of the people there are not even Republicans.”

With just two days left to go until the election, President Trump spent his entire day Saturday in Pennsylvania with rapid-fire campaign rallies. He returned on Sunday before heading to North Carolina, Georgia and Florida for a total of 17 rallies.

States like Pennsylvania and Georgia are critical to Trump’s reelection efforts. Pennsylvania offers 20 electoral votes while Georgia would give the president 16 . Georgia is also the home to two important Senate races. Polls in Georgia indicate a close race between Biden and Trump.

While millions of people have already cast their ballot, both Trump and Biden are angling to round up undecided voters. According to the Washington Post, there are nearly 20 million undecided voters in six important battleground states.

“We have found traveling to a lot of key states that 20 – 30 percent of the people who attend our rallies did not vote in 2016,” Schlapp said. “Many of those people are saying that they want the outsider, I want the guy who is not the career politician, and that is why I am voting for President Trump.”

Another topic prominently discussed during the show was how big tech companies like Twitter and Facebook have censored stories that involve the Biden family. Specifically, a story first reported by the New York Post that details Hunter Biden’s business dealings in Ukraine.

“There is an idea that the mainstream media as well as big tech is trying to keep information from the people, the regular joe,” Carter said. “I think independents just want both sides of the story; they just want to be informed.”

Carter suggested that the tactic of censorship will backfire on the Biden campaign. “I think that you are seeing more and more the idea of censorship is a big problem,” said Schlapp. “The mere fact that they are not letting the American people decide, is a big problem. I think these social media companies have been a huge embarrassment and it’s clear that they have one agenda, and that’s to get Joe Biden elected. I am glad that our Republican senators are holding them accountable.”

Schlapp was referring to Sen. Ted Cruz who ripped Twitter’s CEO over the company’s censorship of the  Hunter Biden story. Jack Dorsey appeared before the Senate Commerce Committee alongside Google’s CEO and Facebook’s CEO. The trio appeared last week for a hearing on Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act.

“Of the three players before us, I think Twitter’s conduct has, by far, been the most egregious,” said Cruz during the hearing. Schlapp referred to Twitter’s treatment of the New York Post as “outrageous” and said that is more evidence of just how corrupt Joe Biden is.

“I do think you will continue to see the truth come out” Schlapp said. “You are going to see the suppression campaign coming not only from the big tech companies but also from the mainstream media where they continue to refuse to cover Tony Bobulinski, who was Hunter Biden’s former partner.

Sara Carter is an award-winning investigative reporter who shares her unique perspective. Carter is an investigative reporter and Fox News contributor. Her stories can be found at

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