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Podcast Review: Too Many Lawyers Oakes v. Oakes

The podcast opens with the pair discussing President Trump’s unwillingness to concede the election to Joe Biden. “Even the president is acknowledging it (election results),” said Royal. “The five stages of grief, the denial and so on, are sinking in.” Connor responded by reminding his father that Trump continues to tweet that he will not concede.



There are several reasons why this year’s presidential election was close and despite post-election controversies centering on voter fraud and a president who refuses to concede, 2024 will undoubtedly encompass many different types of personalities and political ideologies vying for the White House.

The strength of populism and the role it will play in the 2024 presidential election, are just some of the issues covered in an informative and fast-paced new podcast called Too Many Lawyers which is hosted by Royal Oaks and his son Connor. Both men are attorneys based in Los Angeles, California. Royal is a self-described libertarian, Connor a progressive millennial.

The podcast opens with the pair discussing President Trump’s unwillingness to concede the election to Joe Biden. “Even the president is acknowledging it (election results),” said Royal. “The five stages of grief, the denial and so on, are sinking in.” Connor responded by reminding his father that Trump continues to tweet that he will not concede.

“This is all part of the narrative that Trump is setting up,” Connor surmised. “He is saying I am going to hold out until the December 13 electors vote in the Electoral College and at that point, I will say that the election was stolen from me.”

Royal suggested that it does not matter if Trump concedes to Biden. “He’s never going to concede in a traditional way. It is in Trump’s personality to his dying day he is always going to say that the election was stolen from him.”

Meanwhile, there is trouble with Trump’s legal team. The president’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani released a statement with another Trump attorney, Jenna Ellis, saying that Sidney Powell is not a member of the Trump legal team. The statement comes after Powel made incorrect statements and vowed to “blow up” Georgia with a “biblical” lawsuit.

The conversation turned to the future of the Democrat and Republican parties. The spotlight was cast on Joe Biden who flipped the traditionally red states of Arizona and Georgia to blue. “That was in our current era what many people think is a massive upset,” Connor said. “When it comes to flipping states, the Democrats have to walk a fine line between setting realistic expectations and getting their party excited.”

“When you talk about the historic flips, going into the election when the polls had Biden up by 10 points, whatever the cause was, the expectation was that this could be a really historic election for the Democrats,” Royal said. “When you look at how uniquely unpopular and distasteful Donald Trump was from a personality standpoint and when you look at the huge wave of support for progressivism, Trump still got more votes than any other person in a presidential election.”

Connor blamed the over-polling of Democrats and the over-polling of Trump disapproval rating and enough polling on whether people were likely to vote for Trump as another reason why the election was disappointing from the Democrat’s standpoint.

Another tactic that seemed to work for Republicans was the micro-targeting of population in larger cities. For instance, Miami-Dade County, Florida, where 58 percent of the electorate is Hispanic. Hundreds of thousands more people voted for Trump this year as opposed to 2016. He improved his performance in Miami by 22 points which helped him win Florida easily. “This is a symptom of how the electoral system works. You just have to carve away a tiny bit of someone’s base and boom you have the entire state,” Connor said.

This year’s election also featured Blacks and Hispanics voting for Republicans at a much higher clip than they have in the past. In the future Republicans are likely to ride the populist wave that Trump started in 2016.

“Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, and maybe even Mitt Romney are all eyeing 2024,” said Connor. “And they are all trying to decide what the best angle is, and they all know they have to capture most of the Trumpers.”

Too Many Lawyers is a weekly news, current events and information podcast, presented in an entertaining and thoughtful question and answer format. Too Many Lawyers is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Podcast Review: Skimm This

On the latest edition of Skimm This hosted by Justine Davie, thousands of National Guard troops are in Washington D.C. this week as the world prepares for a transition of power. Jytte Klausen, professor of politics, Brandeis University, discusses the security breaches that led to the riots at the Capitol building.



The attack on the U.S. Capitol during a rally hosted by President Trump raises questions about the safety of the upcoming inauguration. The security breaches experienced on that day brought some disturbing realizations to the surface leading to the resignations of the head of the U.S. Capitol Police and two other senior security officials.

On the latest edition of Skimm This hosted by Justine Davie, thousands of National Guard troops are in Washington D.C. this week as the world prepares for a transition of power. Jytte Klausen, professor of politics, Brandeis University, discusses the security breaches that led to the riots at the Capitol building.

Klaussen saidthat ever since several members of a Michigan militia were arrested after plotting to kidnap the state’s governor last year, she has anticipated more political violence. “The minute I was watching the footage of the storming of the Capitol building and noticed people carrying zip ties that is what I thought about.”

Another that became apparent during that fateful day was the lack of information sharing going on between the several law enforcement agencies that patrol the area around the Capitol. Reports indicate that there was plenty of intelligence that was available in the weeks leading up to the riots.  

“The lack of information sharing, the usual threat assessment mechanisms, police were not engaged, they were not meeting prior to the events,” Klaussen said. “I think we just need to say that this was a situation where all the information was there, but no upper hand picture ended up forming.”

Days after the Capitol was attacked, U.S. Capitol Police Chief Steve Sund resigned amid pressure that he could have prepared his force better in the days before the attack. Sund pushed back against that assessment saying that he requested the D.C. National Guard to be placed on standby in case his forces were overwhelmed by protestors.

“If we would have had the National Guard, we could have held them at bay longer until more officers from our partner agencies arrived,” Sund said to the Washington Post. Sund said that six calls for backup during the riots were rejected or delayed.

To prevent further violence, law enforcement officials are considering designating groups that participated in last week’s attack, domestic terrorist organizations. The challenge in taking that step is that domestic terrorism is not a federal crime, according to Brette Steele, director of prevention and national security, McCain Institute.

“Here in the United States the Secretary of State is authorized to designate an organization as a foreign terrorist organization,” Steele said. “The charges for domestic terrorism in the United States are incredibly limited. For instance, if you use certain types of mechanisms like explosives, there may be a terrorism charge.”

The Federal Bureau of Investigation said they are seeing a lot of online chatter about several events centered on the inauguration. A rehearsal of the inauguration was cancelled Sunday because of security concerns.

If the federal government is going to designated certain groups as domestic terrorist organizations ahead of the inauguration, there are some advantages and disadvantages that are particularly noteworthy.

“The advantage is that once you designate a group as a terrorist organization, then being a member of that group and providing support for that group becomes a criminal offense,” Klaussen said. “The disadvantage is that sometimes it makes it harder to identify the groups because they go underground. This type of criminalization is particularly useless.”

The U.S. Secret Service is the lead agency responsible for inauguration security. The Defense Department will deploy up to 25,000 service members in Washington.

The Transportation Security Administration is on high alert following the events at the Capitol with several airlines implementing new rules.

Skimm This podcast breaks down the most complicated stories of the week and gives you the context for why they matter. You can find the podcast by clicking this link.

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Podcast Review: This Weekend With Gordon Deal

Nationally syndicated radio host Gordan Deal welcomed Gerald Seib of the Wall Street Journal to discuss the events at the U.S. Capitol on his most recent podcast, This Weekend with Gordon Deal.



Last week’s attack on the U.S. Capitol by hundreds of people purported to be supporters of President Trump and fighting against what they perceived was a stolen election, further divided a nation already battling massive unemployment due to a global pandemic and a contentious election that ended more than two months after Trump claimed widespread election fraud.

Nationally syndicated radio host Gordan Deal welcomed Gerald Seib of the Wall Street Journal to discuss the events at the U.S. Capitol on his most recent podcast, This Weekend with Gordon Deal.

Deal wondered if the tone of the debates the country is having about politics will change now that a group of people who claim to represent the president has carried out public violence. “I do think one of things that will happen here is that President Trump’s claim to be the leader of the Republican party going forward has sustained a big hit,” Seib said. “I think it’s going to be hard for a lot of Republicans to accept him as the face of their party.”

During the incident at the Capitol, a woman, later identified as Ashli Babbitt, was shot to death inside of the building by federal agents. One U.S. Capitol police officer also died from injuries he sustained while fighting angry protestors. 

Seib said given the injuries and the loss of life that is associated with Trump’s supporters that day, the GOP party is going to have a difficult time forgiving the president.

“Trump supporters basically breached security at the Capitol, vandalized the building, and sent Republican lawmakers into lockdown, including Vice President Pence.”

Seib reiterated that there might be a chance for a cooling down period after everybody steps back to get a different perspective on the situation. “Mitch McConnell was already arguing that in his comments about the election challenge before the mob arrived on the hill. It is not one of those things that people will not forget soon. It may take days, months, or years for this stuff to blow over.”

Deal wondered if President Trump was to blame for the chaos that turned deadly in Washington D.C last week. “He (Trump) sort of set the fire here, you have to admit,” said Seib. “He spoke at the rally near the White House, he said we will never concede the election, we will never stop fighting, and he told his supporters that they have been betrayed by the Republican party’s leaders.” 

Seib said people will inevitably blame the Trump administration for Wednesday’s violence and that the manifestation of that day will be around a while.

Seib, who has been the Wall Street Journal’s deputy bureau chief in Washington since 1997 said the violence that he witnessed in our nation’s capital was “pretty remarkable.” Seib has seen a lot of things in D.C. including the aftermath of 9/11 which he said was an atmosphere that he had never seen before.

“I don’t think anything that has happened since 9/11 has shaken people to the core, except for what happened on Wednesday. I just didn’t think that I would see the type of Democratic processes being disputed and stopped and a vice president being whisked into a lockdown to keep him safe from supporters of his own boss, the President of the United States.”

Every week, This Weekend with Gordon Deal’s podcast goes beyond the headlines with a look at stories, politics, and business news from the U.S. and around the world.

Deal’s nationally syndicated radio show This Morning, America’s First News is broadcast on 250 radio stations across the country. The show features news anchor Jennifer Kushinka and producer Mike Gavin.

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Podcast Review: NPR’s Code Switch – Black And Up In Arms

With gun violence surging across the country, NPR’s Code Switch podcast decided to focus on an old topic with a new twist: Black people and gun ownership.



Mass shootings showed a steep increase in 2020. Even with a pandemic and social restrictions imposed, the number of shootings with four or more victims exceeded any recent year by more than 50 percent, according to Gun Violence Archive, a nonprofit that tracks those types of things.

With gun violence surging across the country, NPR’s Code Switch podcast decided to focus on an old topic with a new twist: Black people and gun ownership. Hosts Shereen Marisol and Gene Demby spoke to Lakeidra Chavis a reporter for The Trace in Chicago, an independent newsroom focused on gun issues.

2020 was a deadly year in Chicago. Authorities released the final crime numbers Friday which showed that shootings and murders jumped by more than 50 percent. There were 769 murders, up from 495 murders in 2019.

Chavis shot a gun for the first time this past June. She did that for a reporting assignment in a town just outside of Chicago called Crete. Chavis visited the National African American Gun Association (NAAGA) which was formed in 2015. The organization’s membership grew considerably last year in the wake of the pandemic and police brutality.

“They have chapters all over the country,” Chavis said. “The goal of NAAGA is to promote training and the legacy of Black gun ownership. Back in May, after the death of George Floyd, I had heard that NAAGA was seeing a huge uptick in membership.”

The organization has more than 40,000 members nationwide and boasts of a wide variety of members including police officers, veterans, teachers, and engineers who have different beliefs and opinions of gun policies.

“I went to NAAGA excited to meet people, I just wanted to see why people were joining this gun club,” said Chavis. “What I witnessed were mostly men members, it was a range of people of varied ages from their 30’s, 40’s, and people all the way up to their 60’s. Their reason for wanting to own a gun is the same reason that most people want to own a gun in this country, self-protection.”

Chicago city leaders and a new police superintendent were forced to tackle civil unrest leaving citizens sometimes to fend for themselves. Chavis said that was a driving force behind the local NAAGA chapter’s surging membership numbers in 2020.

“One of the things that surprised me in talking to everyone was just how rooted in trauma their reasons for wanting to own guns were,” she said. “One of the people that I spoke to and he has been a member for quite a while. This gentleman decided to apply for a concealed carry permit after witnessing the Dylann Roof massacre on the news during the summer of 2015.”

Roof targeted the group because they were black and said he hoped to start a race war.

One of the victims, Cynthia Graham Hurd, was the sister of Charlotte City Councilman Malcolm Graham. The church was selected by Roof because of its deep history. Emanuel AME Church in Charleston is one of the oldest black churches in the country and was a focal point of the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960s.

Chavis also spoke to Dickson Amoah who founded the Chicago chapter in 2016 following 10 military deployments. Dickson said despite everything he did for his country the perception that people had of him as Black American with a gun was totally different.

Amoah recalled the experiences people shared as gun owners in other, mostly white, spaces. “We had people that were the only Black person at a gun range, or we had people that were at a [marksman] competition and the N-word was flying out a couple of times,” Amoah said. “I went to one [gun store] and they had a Colin Kaepernick target.”

Amoah also said that he feels that it is important to change the perception within the black community about gun ownership to get rid of the stereotype that only bad people and criminals carry guns.

“Me as a black man who fought for this country should be able to carry a firearm,” said Amoah. “Our mission statement is to change the perception of black people about gun ownership within the black community.”

As for the ongoing gun violence in the City of Chicago. Superintendent David Brown issued a statement saying:

“The best way to reduce crime and violence is to prevent it from happening in the first place by building bridges and trust in the community. Community engagement has become a central component of our public safety approach at the unit level, from the Detective Bureau to the citywide Community Safety Teams and Critical Incident Response Teams. This includes the Rollin’ Rec events conducted over the summer in partnership with the Chicago Parks District, along with the upcoming launch of the Police Athletic and Arts League in 2021. We also expanded the Neighborhood Policing Initiative from two to five districts this past summer and will expand into additional districts in 2021.”

NPR’s Code Switch podcast was launched in 2016 by journalists Shereen Marisol and Gene Demby. Download and listen to Code Switch by clicking this link

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